I am so sick of seeing ALIENS getting their asses handed to them by fucking Predators. I can see a Predator killing 1, maybe 2 if he's lucky. But come the fuck on - he's holding an Alien up by his neck?I see endless fanart, models and statues of this shit. When will the make a killer statue of a Predator about to be killed by an Alien (or Aliens)? Predators are not that powerful. And Aliens are not that weak.
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I'm not sure about the big apple !
Timewaster is hereby banned from JimSmash.
yea, aliens are pussies. they show signs of high intelligence, work as a group, can withstand the vacume of space, incredibly strong, quick and agile, one completely dogged the crew of the Nostromo without even batting a eye ( and had no weapons..), and the rest completely decimated a crew of heavily armed space marines, and turned them into a bunch of frightened school children. while Arnold managed to outsmart a predator using some mud and a tree stump......Predators have better weapons, but ALIENS are the better species..
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Yeah. Arn't Predators basically hillbillies that go into the hills to shoot quail with .50 caliber rifles?
Anonymous, clearly you're forgetting the fact that an alien got destroyed by a group of malnourished convicts who also had NO WEAPONS and were led by a bible thumping fatso.
Meanwhile, a lone single Predator wiped out a whole temple full of aliens - complete with alien queen - all by his lonesome.
Are you referring to the all the convicts the Alien KILLED? Because I remember all but 1 being killed by the Alien.
And as for AVP, which is pure shite, the Aliens were portrayed as pussies. Which is what the statue in this post is from.
Brian 'United Nations' Glover was eaten by an Alien, and Gary Busey lost out against the Predator so they're both pretty hardass in my book. But a fair point is made, why not put out a predator eating it at the hands of an alien for a change? These pieces do seem a little one sided. And no swarm either, just one solitary badass Cameron warrior taking out a predator Dallas style.
So pleaed to see Glazebrook is alive and well, missing his posts.
Wow, I had no idea this post would ignite such heat. I blame Timewaster (who I thought I banned) :P
Its not a matter of dissing the Predators... its me being tired of Aliens ALWAYS being portrayed as the chump when the 2 get together.
When Dark Horse Comics first put the 2 together I thought, "BRILLIANT!"
The Predator is a badass and COULD hunt/kill an Alien... but its no easy feat, hence why they hunt them - if it was easy, there's no sport.
I just want to see some statues, etc of Aliens taking out Preds. Let's even the playing field, is all.
yes, anything referring to the AVP franchise is dismissed on principal alone. ( if you want a TRUE AVP story, read the dark Horse comic,.......)
- So the "temple" scene is a non point. nothing more than Fan fiction turned into a Hollywood quick buck......
-ps, AND if your using the crappy ALIEN's sequels, The Aliens also tore apart that space station full of marines, and bounty hunters....
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ALIEN:
Single Alien wipes out entire crew (except for Ripley) in less than 24 hours.
Killed by incineration; Space Shuttle thrusters.
ALIENS:
Hive of Aliens (157 total Colonists) wipe out entire Marine Squad.
Killed by full-auto explosive tip ammo and nuclear explosion.
ALIEN 3:
Single Alien kills entire Prison Colony (except for Prisoner Morse & Ripley).
Killed by molten lead/cold-water combo explosion.
ALIEN: RESURRECTION:
Aliens kill marines, doctors and smugglers aboard Military Vessel.
Killed by gunfire & ship crashing into Earth.
AVP:
Aliens kill 2 of the 3 predators, then Queen kills 3rd.
Flashback: Predators kill a few Aliens before releasing suicidal nuclear explosion.
AVP-R:
Aliens do jack shit.
PREDATOR:
Predator kills highly trained black ops military squad by being invisible when attacking.
Killed by homemade bow/arrow and booby traps (like "Home Alone").
Technically, by suicide.
PREDATOR 2:
Predator kills some drug dealers by being invisible when attacking.
Tried to commit suicide but halted by hero.
Killed by an old Danny Glover.
Seems like when the going gets tough, Predators kill themselves.
Alien: Stalks a clueless crew of outerspace garbagemen. Kills all but one woman. Basically does the job of Jason X but takes longer, considering the chestburster technically killed one for him.
Aliens: Untold number of aliens kill a few people (with no weapons or idea of what their up against). Space marines are called in - are double crossed by the star of "Mad About You"(!!!) and killed, except for a LITTLE GIRL and the woman who survived the first time.
Alien 3: Same chick who survived first couple times manages to outsmart an alien again. Seriously - an entire species can't kill Sigourney Weaver? Lord Vigo came closer than these acid blooded space cockroaches.
Alien Resurrection: A bunch of girls manage to kill an alien, a queen alien, and a skull faced alien-human hybrid that looked a lot like the creature from "Mac & Me".
AvP: Whole hoard of aliens and a queen can't stop a predator and a girl. Props for it being a different girl this time around though.
AvPr: Aliens kill a bum and a dog. THAT IS ALL.
Predator: Kills Jesse Ventura. Kills Apollo Creed. Jim Hopper's men. Takes his own life after losing a fight with the freakin' Terminator. Goes out like a real pro.
Predator 2: Kills more people in Los Angeles than Pink's Hot Dogs. Goes out swinging after battling a tough as nails LAPD that includes Danny Glover AND Aliens golden boy Bill Paxton.
Why can't both species be awesome? Why must only ONE be the champ supreme all the time? That's all I'm saying. Settle down now, kiddies. Or its naptime.
Maybe there should be a Jimsmash contest - create your own Alien vs Predator artwork where the alien finally wins.
"Alien: Stalks a clueless crew of outerspace garbagemen. Kills all but one woman. Basically does the job of Jason X but takes longer, considering the chestburster technically killed one for him."
-They weren't garbagemen, they were truck drivers...right?... hauling the refinery or whatever that huge thing was?
-lolJasonX
-The chestburster WAS the ALIEN though so technically it _did_ wipe them all out.
"Aliens: Untold number of aliens kill a few people (with no weapons or idea of what their up against). Space marines are called in - are double crossed by the star of "Mad About You"(!!!) and killed, except for a LITTLE GIRL and the woman who survived the first time."
-The Hadley's Hope folks were civvies who had access to small arms and non-military explosives (seismic survey charges).
-Based on knowledge of how the ALIEN spreads and tidbits from the movie, we know that they didn't just come crashing through the colony like a wave and take them unawares. There were barricades and signs of the unsuccessful stand the colonists tried to make shown when the USCMC first got to the site. For a good (imo) vision into how it all went down for the colonists, check out the Dark Horse comic titled 'Newt's Tale'.
"Here's what I do know..."
The ALIENS (this time it's awesome) are more a force of nature imo. Even with their queen and warrior/drone hierarchy there is no room for individuality. They breed. They spread. Rinse, repeat. Were an ALIEN with some kind of individuality be created it would likely suffer a pretty quick end at the claws, jaws and tails of its hivemates.
Because of the 'force of nature' aspect and the lack of individuality, it would follow that it is harder to identify with the species when compared to something like the Predators. While also inhuman, the hunters do have individuality, so are easier to relate to than a hive race.
blah blah blah.
Most likely, the guys (or gals) paying to have these things made assume they will get more fan and collector dollars by creating a situation the buyer can identify with instead of ALIEN #01372 from hive #00158C laying the inner jaw smack down on some 'valiant' Predator.
I wholeheartedly agree that Aliens are often portrayed as way too weak compared to Preds. While I root for the Predators myself, their victories are only satisfying if *they actually have to work to win*; this was something the first AVP established well. After the Predator pwnage of AVP1, AVPR completely blew it's chance to show the Predator kicking butt because the Aliens aren't even a formidable opponent, and thus there's no satisfaction in seeing Wolf mow down those stupid beefy cockroaches who are too stupid to defend themselves. Scar's kill with the shuriken in AVP1 was way more satisfying than *any* of Wolf's kills in AVPR
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